Senator Marshall to Jake Tapper: Dr. Fauci Clearly Lied to You

Senator Marshall Joins CNN's The Lead with Jake Tapper

Washington - U.S. Senator Roger Marshall, M.D. (R-Kansas), joined CNN'sThe Lead with Jake Tapper to discuss Dr. Fauci being held in contempt of Congress, how he misled the President and the American public during COVID, and how Americans deserve an investigation into the COVID pandemic to uncover the truth.

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On Senator Rand Paul holding Dr. Fauci in contempt of Congress:

"Well, certainly it's within Chairman Paul's abilities and privileges to do what he's doing. But beyond all this - this is why I think we need a special counsel, that the Department of Justice needs to appoint a special counsel to dive into all this. I mean, we haven't talked about the autopen yet - this was an autopen pardon. How does that come into the area as well? So, I think there's a lot out there. And I think, to me, more importantly, this is about what's morally right to do. There was a moral obligation to the million families that lost a loved one, to the 20 million Americans who have long COVID to this day, and all just the emotional challenges we have because of those years of the COVID response. And what we do know is Anthony Fauci clearly lied, misled Congress, and misled the President. What his diary said was completely different than the advice he was giving the President, as well as the American public."

On Dr. Fauci's lies revealed in his diary:

"Yeah, January 26th, he tells his diary that there's no way that this virus came from a wet market in Wuhan, China. But he goes out publicly and says that it came from nature - that it came from this wet market. And then just four days later, he's meeting with all the gain-of-function scientists - the top gain-of-function scientists in the world - and 10 of the 12 say that this came from a laboratory, but he never offered that explanation to the President or to the American people. And I think the President's response would be completely different if he'd walked in there and said, 'Look, there's a new virus out there, it was made in a lab, by the way. America's help funded the development of this virus; we've been doing this research for decades. We have no idea what this virus is going to look like when it gets out into the world, but we do know that nobody has any immunity to it.'"

"Jake, I mean, what I'm disappointed here is Dr. Fauci didn't tell you about his decades of funding viral gain-of-function research - that's not in question at all…. I just don't think there's any way he wouldn't have known about it. I think he clearly lied to you about all that - he was clearly, through EcoHealth, funding this. When President Obama told him we didn't want to do this type of research anymore, he found some type of loophole to do it, and when that loophole was closed, he took this research out to foreign countries. He orchestrated this. This was his ticket to the Nobel Prize - he thought if he could get this gain-of-function research done, he was going to get a Nobel Prize. I think that those are facts. And for him to even begin to deny that this came from a laboratory is beyond the pale to me. He never could show any type of an intermediate species or progenitor of this virus; there's just a plethora of evidence to say that this virus came from a laboratory, and he knew that."

On whether an invalid autopen pardon would give Dr. Fauci the right to plead the 5^th:

"So, it does. But I'm saying that needs to go to a special counsel and go to the Supreme Court. There's no way that I could even begin to answer that legal question. And I think if the Supreme Court was on our call tonight, that it would be some type of a split decision. But I think there's so many questions here that are going to go unanswered - that's why we need this special counsel. And take it out of Washington, take it out of the politics, and let the special counsel dive into all these issues, starting with the autopen pardon."

On establishing a 9/11 style commission to look into the COVID pandemic:

"You read my mind, Jake. So, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand - a good friend of mine - and I, had that bill - we've been pushing for that for years. You know, she lived through the 9/11 stuff there in New York herself, and that's what she said from the beginning. I said, 'You're right. You're absolutely right.' And again, get it out of Washington. To me, this is what we would call an autopsy, right? You lose a patient, you don't know why, family members want to know why, that's why we need a postmortem examination here. And we did make mistakes - we all made mistakes through this process, let's learn from those mistakes so we can have a better response next time. You're spot on."

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