Dr. Stacy P. Gill and Lou Hill, from ‘WEHUNT2-WEFISH2,’ Talk DNA, the Human Species and Connecting with the Outdoors on ‘The Michael Waddell Podcast’

Doc, Lou and Waddell Discuss Why Hunting and Fishing is Really for Everybody

DENVER (July 15, 2026) - Join Host Michael Waddell as he sits down with popular new content creators and outdoor lifestyle advocates Dr. Stacy P. Gill, known as "Doc," and Lou Hill, from the WEHUNT2-WEFISH2 podcast and social media platform (on TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram and more). "Doc and Lou" focus on hunting and fishing and celebrating the black community's involvement in the great outdoors. They emphasize the healthy lifestyle that comes from connecting with the outdoors, as well as the importance of wildlife conservation. Born and raised in Eutaw in west-central Alabama, along the Black Warrior River, and in that state's famous Black Belt region, Doc first headed out hunting and fishing with his older brother, Darnell. Lou was born and raised outside Tuscaloosa, Alabama, and he was introduced to hunting by his Dad, who was a small-game hunter and enjoyed hunting over shorthaired pointers. Lou graduated from BB guns to shotguns to rifles and finally to bow and arrow, and he became a hardcore deer hunter. While their hunting and fishing mentors have passed on now, both Doc and Lou are dedicated to carrying on their legacies, and they are our very special guests on this episode of The Michael Waddell Podcast, presented by Spandau Arms and in partnership with Folds of Honor, Cigars International and Poncho Outdoors. After hearing a somewhat controversial TikTok reel posted by Waddell following a Kansas City, Missouri, sportsmen's show, where he implored the black community to "show up and show off" their outdoor skills and experiences, Doc and Lou were inspired to answer that call and share their outdoors experiences by creating more hunting and fishing content and ultimately by hosting the WEHUNT2-WEFISH2 podcast.

"Well, for me, it was comical," began Doc, in response to watching Waddell's reel. "It was who you are, to the core. I mean, I didn't see it as harmful or offensive. I saw it as a way to energize, ignite the black community to say, 'Hey, you know, we can do this too.' Just like what we talk about on our podcast a lot of times. We share this space just like everyone else, and we have the opportunity to show and tell, and [share] our abilities as well, so, I didn't take that offensively. Matter of fact, I even messaged you afterwards and said, 'Hey, let me come and hunt too.' For a black man in the hunting community, hearing that, I took it as a call to action almost, a charge, or 'next man up,' or a dare. It wasn't anything to be offensive about, in my opinion. Now, my opinion might not matter much, but I've had my share of knowing mean people and talking to mean people when they're not genuine, and what I took from it was the furthest thing from [that], so that was my initial reaction."

"I've watched your shows and followed your videos," added Lou, "and [I've seen] how you interact with people at expos, so I may be a little bit biased because I'm a true fan; however, that's my fourth time watching it, so I tried, after hearing what people were saying, [to ask myself] 'What did they see that I didn't see?' So, I saw someone, when you say, 'call out,' I guess they want to pick and choose a certain word, so when you said you were 'calling them out,' they may have been offended by that, but what you were saying was, 'Hey, step up, produce, show more content, be part of the industry, so that everyone can see what you are doing. And so, I took it, I wasn't offended, I enjoyed it. I understand it. I'm a part of the industry; I love to hunt. So, to see that just motivated me. 'Okay, I need to create. Take another video camera out to the woods and try to create more content so I can show people this is what I'm doing. Instead of just killing animals, how do we prepare to do things?' So, I took it in a different way," Lou concluded.

"Just to piggyback off that," Doc continued. "I'll be honest with you - that was the motivating thing behind WEHUNT2-WEFISH2, really. To pick up a camera and to record it. You know, it's not being a fanatical fan; it's basically saying, 'Hey, you know I can do what they're doing. I can do that, too.' Honestly, that's part of how WEHUNT2-WEFISH2 was born," said Doc with a smile.

In the past, selfless mentoring and sharing in the accomplishments of fellow hunters and fishers was central to the growth of the outdoors community, but that sentiment seems to have faded in some areas. However, Lou feels there's hope. "I think it's coming back," he interjected, "because Doc and I…Like, he's on my spot. I take him and put him on his spot, and I'm more happy about Doc killing than my harvesting an animal because I want him to harvest. We're just out interacting, having a good time, and he tells me what he saw and I tell him what I saw and then we come back and we re-group, and then we go back out there and he harvests. We got him! We got him! Not I got him. If it's a deer that I'm after, and I know there are some deer that I've picked out that I want, and I take you on that property and you harvest that deer, I'm not going to be mad. I'll probably be upset if you miss or injure the deer, but if you harvest that deer, I am happy for you. Let's take a photo of the killer…I'm happy," finished Lou emphatically.

"The place we have down in Eutaw," continued Doc, "you know, when you put your sweat equity into it, where you're cutting the fields, making food plots, hanging stands, you know where deer are, you know where the travel corridors are, and when you go down, you take people down there, the last couple of years, the guys, the family members I have still in Eutaw who we hunt with, [they] want to come down, and so what we'll do is put them in the best spots to be successful. We'll put them in the spots where we've killed deer, or we've harvested deer, or know where deer we'll be, and we put them in those spots so they can be successful, because at the end of the day, our success is your success. We're happy for you. At least, I know that's the spirit that we share."

"We talk about it a lot of times. You know, it tends to kind of disappear sometimes the further you get away from those circles of influence, because you never know what peoples' intentions are. Some might have the gratification of [being] a solo hunter and they don't want to share in their experiences…but like Dr. O [a hunting partner and regular on WEHUNT2-WEFISH2], he shares with us all the time. He shares what he has. I've gone hunting with him, and he has put me in a stand where he knows deer will be, and just as he said, I look out there - there's video out there- deer all over the place! It's that kind of spirit that reminds me, 'We're all in this together.'"

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