Two Worlds, One Threat Podcast

Purvi Kay - Chief Information Security Officer, NESO

Purvi Kay is a Chartered Aerospace Engineer turned global cybersecurity leader and a highly sought-after speaker known for translating national security thinking into practical, business-relevant cybersecurity strategies. With nearly two decades of experience spanning the UK government, the intelligence community and the defence industry, Purvi brings rare insight into how cyber risk, resilience, and defence innovation work within the world's most high-stakes environments.

Tristan Watkins - Director of Services Innovation, Advania

With 16 years of experience in security and compliance, Tristan offers a candid perspective on why traditional AI governance frameworks often miss the mark. He emphasises that the real risks lie in overlooked areas like data permissions, shadow AI usage, and overshared information, issues that have plagued IT for over a decade but now carry amplified consequences in the age of AI.

Key insights from their conversation:

• AI safety meets cyber security: Understand why AI safety and cyber security can no longer be treated separately as AI becomes more autonomous.
• The rise of autonomous AI agents: Explore the new risks that emerge when AI systems can make decisions and take actions independently.
• Securing the AI supply chain: Discover why organisations need to consider security across AI models, data, platforms and third-party services.
• Rethinking Secure by Design: Learn how traditional Secure by Design principles need to evolve to address the unique risks introduced by AI.
• AI risk at board level: Understand what boards and business leaders need to know about AI risk, governance and accountability.

Tristan also explores how the rise of autonomous AI is creating new security challenges for organisations. He explains why AI safety, cyber security and governance need to evolve together.